Surf Visionary John Angiulo Unveils His Book, Film and Impact Campaign, "Surfing Saves"

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[00:00:00] Evelyn O'Doherty: Welcome to On Water, the Session Magazine podcast. [00:00:10] Here we talk to water athletes, entrepreneurs, scientists, and earth friendly folks about the experience of a life well lived, connected [00:00:20] to water. I'm your host, Evelyn O'Doherty. Let's dive in.[00:00:30] [00:00:40]

And welcome to another episode of [00:00:50] On Water, the Session Magazine podcast for water lovers. Today we're here in the studio in Montauk with John Angelo, [00:01:00] who is a Session Magazine writer, a Mexilogfest invitee and competitor, and someone that I like to call [00:01:10] like a surf visionary. Yeah. Heady, right? John, thanks so much for coming on in to the podcast studio today, and you know, tell me a little bit about [00:01:20] why you're here.

Who the hell are you? How did we get all caught up in this?

[00:01:25] John Angiulo: Who are you? Who do you think you are? Yeah, exactly. Well, and

[00:01:28] Evelyn O'Doherty: welcome . Thank you, . [00:01:30]

[00:01:30] John Angiulo: Wonderful. All right. Well, thanks a lot for having me, Evelyn. Um, yeah, my name's John Angelo. I'm from, uh, Montauk, New York. Um, went between [00:01:40] here and mid Long Island, Babylon when I was a kid.

And then we started a surf lesson company, my cousins and uh, family and I when I was like 16. And that became [00:01:50] really the root of my professional life, just, uh, teaching, surfing, and surfing. And it was the first love of my life my dad taught me when I was five and so surfing kind of [00:02:00] became like the Keystone cornerstone of my existence and Yeah, now it's been 31 years of surfing teaching for 20 I've written [00:02:10] four books before this but involved in a bunch of different films editing and now I have a specific project You know, in mine called surfing saves, which is really the focal point of [00:02:20] everything I've done in my life and everything I'm doing going forward.

And so that's kind of the little synopsis and what, you know, brings me to you.

[00:02:28] Evelyn O'Doherty: It's amazing. So when you [00:02:30] said that surfing is the cornerstone, I thought you said the quarters,

[00:02:34] John Angiulo: the Corazon, the Corazon of my heart. It's

[00:02:36] Evelyn O'Doherty: kind of perfect. It was the heart. That'd be the heart of the heart. But yeah,

[00:02:39] John Angiulo: the [00:02:40] cornerstone.

Yeah. It's like the thing that, you know, that keystone, the one that holds the arches up.

[00:02:43] Evelyn O'Doherty: Right,

[00:02:44] John Angiulo: so without that then everything falls down, nothing to walk through.

[00:02:47] Evelyn O'Doherty: So you, um, you know, we're [00:02:50] so lucky at Session to have had you literally dropped into our midst, right? Like I've known you for, I want to say almost two decades [00:03:00] at this point.

Yeah, and um, never knew that you, I knew you were an amazing surfer, I never knew that you were a writer. And then we have Will Scudin to thank, right, a mutual friend of [00:03:10] ours and certainly a big, uh, part of the family at Session Magazine, who sort of, you know, who didn't sort of, he definitely, like, dropped your name and kicked you [00:03:20] over to us, saying, like, you need to talk to John to be a writer, uh, for the magazine, for which we are eternally grateful, amongst other things.

Many other favors to Will, [00:03:30] um, but like how did that happen? How are you and Will Skutin connected?

[00:03:35] John Angiulo: So the story of all that is really, really amazing. I mean, this, you know, this project has [00:03:40] had so many amazing synchronicities. That's so beautiful. They're incredible. They can't ignore them. But anyway, so with Will, I've known Will, Uh, for, you know, even longer than I've known you, I, [00:03:50] uh, from surfing on Long Island, you know, there was, back in the day, there was a bit more of a smaller crew and obviously Will is Will, so for anyone listening who doesn't know who Will is, he is an incredible surfer all around, [00:04:00] uh, world renowned big wave surfer, incredible waterman, also, uh, teacher of thousands of kids and people in, uh, Long Beach, also has a non profit surfer all, [00:04:10] overall incredible human surfer.

Um, and so my, project surfing saves. I have reached out to him initially as one of the main like [00:04:20] group of people I wanted to begin filming with because I knew the type of caliber of person he was and the caliber of surfer he was and the reach he had in the community as a great way to kind of bring this concept out.[00:04:30]

And so I have been talking to him about it for a little while, trying to get him on the phone. And this is what's amazing about how it got connected with you. Cause I finally get him on the phone. [00:04:40] He's in Puerto Rico. You know, in a dirt parking lot somewhere, and I claim that my whole life happens because of dirt parking lots, which is also true.

Um, and so I'm on the phone with him about this project, [00:04:50] and he goes, Oh, hold on, here's someone you gotta meet. And Russ, who is the owner of the magazine, walks up to him, and he puts us on a phone call right off the bat, and we just [00:05:00] started jabbering, and he's like, Yeah, da da da, I'm like, I'm going to Mexi Luxface, he goes, Oh, we have some people going there, I'm like, you know, I could easily write a story for you guys, I love it, and he's like, Yeah, [00:05:10] let me put you in touch with my editor.

Right? And then it was you, who I've also already known. So it was the entire thing is incredibly synchronized and just [00:05:20] really really kind of beautiful the way it all fell into place. And then yeah, and then from that I got to go to Mexico, right, as part of also the Surfing Saves [00:05:30] trip but also just like just to go to compete and now also to get to write with you guys.

So that was really cool. one of the most exciting trips of my life. Cause I was doing, I had so much that I really wanted to do [00:05:40] to do there. So that was super cool. Um, and I guess for anyone who doesn't know exactly what the Mexi log fest is, um, it's, [00:05:50] it's one of the top two or three most prestigious longboard events on the planet recognized by all of us as that, um, invite only, uh, longboards, no leashes, [00:06:00] traditional, And it's essentially around 60 women.

This year was a bit more, I think it was 150, like 75 and 75. Um, from going around the entire world [00:06:10] invited to come to some of the most incredible locales in Mexico. And yes, compete, but really more collaborate. Live together, uh, serve together, celebrate together, [00:06:20] create, um, and build this, uh, amazing sort of community and family that we've, that's been, that's happened over the last 10 years from this event.

And so I got to go there, and the waves were [00:06:30] absolutely firing. Everyone was in the best mood ever. The location, Mazatlan, was an incredible place. A historical city with, you know, really [00:06:40] fantastic, amazing old world architecture, incredible food, music, art. So, that's a synopsis of both Mike's Autofest in general and this one, and it [00:06:50] was like,

[00:06:50] Evelyn O'Doherty: It was amazing.

So you, in the article that you wrote, uh, which is coming out in our fall issue of the magazine, you credit the [00:07:00] founder, Israel, what's his last name?

[00:07:02] John Angiulo: Uh, uh, yeah, Israel. Uh, we call him Izzy. I don't even know exactly how to say it. Preciado, I think. [00:07:10] P R E S C I A D O I don't even actually know. His name is Israel.

We all call him Ezzy.

[00:07:16] Evelyn O'Doherty: He's on a first name basis.

[00:07:18] John Angiulo: And he's essentially the [00:07:20] Godfather. He's just the straight father of this event. He literally created it nine years ago. I believe the first one was in [00:07:30] Sayulita. I've been going for like the last three years. seven years invited, which is, which is a huge honor in case anyone's wondering.

It's like amazing. I just want to

[00:07:37] Evelyn O'Doherty: back up, right? So it would, so what you [00:07:40] said, right, was that it's only 75 men and seven, no, not only the top 75 men and the top 75 women. [00:07:50] In traditional longboarding are invited. Like you can't just show up and register and be a part of this event. You have to be an invitee Mm-Hmm.

to show up. And that Izzy, [00:08:00] uh, has created it more as a gathering of like-minded spirits and souls to collaborate with the fun of a competition [00:08:10] structure placed on top right. And that, um, during the course of the week of the event, you also have multiple ways. to, uh, get together [00:08:20] and talk and celebrate and create ideas.

Just tell me a little bit about that. Like the community aspect of it.

[00:08:26] John Angiulo: Yeah. I mean, so that's really what it's all about in terms of like how [00:08:30] Israel, I mean, also in terms of how the contest runs, it's different than every other contest. It's meant to make you be, uh, more collaborative and more community minded with the people that you're with.[00:08:40]

Um, so what I mean by that is everyone is guaranteed to serve three heats. Their two best waves are taken from each heat total and their best wave overall is doubled. So you [00:08:50] have a total of seven scores and it's just math. And so you're out there firing wave with three other people. So and those people aren't really [00:09:00] competing against you.

They're just you're gonna get waves because there's enough waves and you know, it's just how you surf on those waves. tallied up over time. But you don't get sent home the first time you [00:09:10] get everyone gets to surf the whole week. So it really takes pressure off and makes it so that we all get to enjoy each other a lot more.

Um, and then obviously whoever does best, they go to the next round. So at that point we're all so close after a week of [00:09:20] hanging out, a lot of us arrive early as well. So it's a bit more than that. That it's a lot, there's a lot of camaraderie, a lot of friendship, a lot of, uh, like lifelong, uh, relationships made.

And to, [00:09:30] uh, Izzy's credit and the things that we do at night, the programming, whether it's like, we hit, we don't do it. We had a Lucha Libre, like contest, which is a traditional Mexican wrestling followed by a [00:09:40] punk rock band. I mean, this crazy, crazy place that was like, You know, the roof is gone. It's, you know, um, beautiful, kind of like dilapidated, old, [00:09:50] uh, ancient world thing.

But, um, there's all these murals and crazy things on the walls, extremely beautiful. And then you have Lucha Libre and the other, everyone, you know, there's all these different bands, music. There was, [00:10:00] uh, the art gallery. Cause everyone, everyone in longboarding for the most part is a, you know, dual triartist of some kind.

[00:10:06] Evelyn O'Doherty: Like we all,

[00:10:07] John Angiulo: we all mostly view longboarding as both a sport [00:10:10] and an art. And then they usually like one or two other things, whether it's writing, drawing, painting, this, that, anything, anything. Right. So people are doing that. The art night's amazing. The observatory [00:10:20] was incredible. Like this giant. So anyway, long story short, he creates a lot of opportunities for us to be able to, uh, Uh, get along and make real relationships throughout the course of it.

That's not based upon the [00:10:30] competition.

[00:10:31] Evelyn O'Doherty: It's just extraordinary, right? I, there, I don't think I've heard of another event that does anything remotely like that in the surfing community.

[00:10:38] John Angiulo: There's an, um, I don't know [00:10:40] that there's, there's nothing like the Mexi log fest. That's for sure. I mean, that's like, when I first went to my first one, Mike longboard ever come out of the UK.

[00:10:50] And then low living. No, who is arguably the best female longboard ever coming out of Mexico. Uh, I, we're all, this is in Saladita. We're in these amazing little huts. Everyone's hanging out, [00:11:00] drinking and whatever we do. And, uh, you know, I'm talking to them. I'm at that point. I'm like, John Angelo from New York.

I was the first person ever invited from New York to go to the maxi log fest. They didn't think that there was, it was like, [00:11:10] it was like, it was like a regression where they were like, there's waves in New York. I hadn't heard that in a while, but they were all like, what the hell are you doing here? How'd you learn how to surf?

You know, like this and everything like that. But anyhow, so I was there. And [00:11:20] they were like, Hey, both of them agree. They're like, take it from me. We're both invited to everything. And this is the best contest on the planet. And that was like my first or second day I was ever there. [00:11:30] And to my knowledge, they are correct.

Uh, but anyhow, yeah, so it's really, really special, huge honor, a ton of fun. And yeah, you make lifelong, uh, [00:11:40] community and friends that are around the world.

[00:11:42] Evelyn O'Doherty: It sounds so precious. It really does. And just hats off to Izzy for creating something extraordinary.

[00:11:48] John Angiulo: Another thing too, sure, [00:11:50] especially in this day and age, everyone would like this piece of information, but the men and women's purse in the Mexico Life Vest has been equal since its inception.

So that's also, that was 10 years ago and it wasn't because [00:12:00] someone, um, It wasn't because someone complained about Izzy. It was because he did that just, that's how he wanted to do it. He's got a wife and a daughter. I'm sure that's on his mind. But regardless, [00:12:10] without social pressure,

[00:12:11] Evelyn O'Doherty: he

[00:12:11] John Angiulo: just decided that that was the way to do it.

Want that said, so

[00:12:14] Evelyn O'Doherty: That's amazing. Yeah. He is the shit. That's amazing. Yeah. He is the shit Uhhuh. I haven't even met him. Oh,

[00:12:18] John Angiulo: he's so funny too. I mean, it's not like [00:12:20] he's just like, it is not like, he's just like some angelic dude, like doing good things. He's fucking hilarious. Will rip you. Like, I mean, he's just like, just real, real.

Mm-Hmm. [00:12:30] I, yeah, we all, we, I mean we all love that cat. He's, he's a, he's a king.

[00:12:34] Evelyn O'Doherty: All right. Yeah. Right. So stay tuned for that, uh, upcoming article and the next issue. And then also just talking about the [00:12:40] community aspect of the Mexi Log Fest sort of. segues us in really beautifully to, um, Surfing Saves, right?

So we want to hear, [00:12:50] so Surfing Saves is what?

[00:12:53] John Angiulo: Okay, right, so Surfing Saves is three things really, a book, [00:13:00] a film, and an impact campaign, right? And so the book itself, and the concept of Surfing Saves is is simply that surfing saves us in [00:13:10] all these different ways from what I call a sick society. And there's a myriad of ways, physically, socially, communally, financially, mentally, spiritually.

creatively and [00:13:20] Creates outlets and gives us inputs into how we can become better when we learn from surfing, right? So that the um, and then the idea of surfing saves us We get inspired to save the [00:13:30] places that we love and the people that we love more so than almost any group And that because everything is actually literally waves from every possible scientific source from every ancient traditional spiritual source [00:13:40] Everything is actually waves.

And so surfing is this amazing metaphor and we use that to craft a narrative of what we can do as a global community to help regenerate our world. [00:13:50] Yeah.

[00:13:51] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yeah. Right. I mean, it's a little bit of a mouthful, but I, I happen to have had a bit of a deep dive surfing saves either through speaking with you, [00:14:00] uh, working with you a little bit and also, um, working with you on the book.

Right. So. I'd love to break it down a little bit, uh, you know, so I, I love when [00:14:10] you talk about everything is energy, right? Because that's kind of the basis of this whole book. So just back it out a minute, right, to people who don't know what the [00:14:20] hell that means.

[00:14:20] John Angiulo: Sure. Yeah, yeah. So, right, for instance, if whoever you are, you're listening to this, the way that you're listening to this is that your body is an [00:14:30] energetic wave that's Uh, receiver and, uh, emitter, right?

And so your ears are just hearing sound waves. I'm sure you've heard this before. This isn't probably a novel [00:14:40] concept, uh, but same thing. Literally everything is that is waves. And these waves are just broken down into, um, frequency. And so when we [00:14:50] understand that, then we start to understand how we can use that to our advantage.

Um, and so I don't know if that really simplifies it, but. The truth of everything I've come to [00:15:00] understand, as I did more research in the book and for the film, for instance, like, your, our ears and our eyes and our nose are only different in that they're, uh, the frequency that the [00:15:10] atoms are vibrating at makes them form that way, right?

So it's all literally waves, and then those waves are condensed and made into things based upon frequency. And so since that's [00:15:20] true, Then, if everything's waves, the surfer is just the person who is consciously reading and riding and wielding the waves of their world, right? And so that means we can do that, obviously, in the [00:15:30] ocean, that's what you do.

You read, ride, and then you wield, meaning like you're able to use your own energetic waves to do things. And then when you take that and apply that into our world, it's the same thing in the ocean of our [00:15:40] existence. And we could take the lessons that we're learning in the ocean, if we understand them properly, and apply them to our lives, and it will help us navigate the rest of our lives.

Um, this is the, my work in [00:15:50] concept of really what surfing can do for us at like pretty much the deepest and highest level.

[00:15:54] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yeah. I really, I mean, I really enjoy it. It's I've heard before, right, that the lessons we learn in [00:16:00] surfing can definitely be applied outside of the water, but you take it to a completely like you, you almost take us in on that assumption.

Like, yeah, of course that's the truth [00:16:10] and then bring it to an entirely different level. Um, yeah. And your book does such a great job of, it's really a download, right? [00:16:20] Downloading that.

[00:16:21] John Angiulo: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, so, right, uh, for those listening, right, the book is essentially my own stories of the way that surfing has saved me in these key ways, [00:16:30] um, and then the film is meant to tell the stories of, you know, of everyone around the world, the most compelling individuals who've been saved, the most compelling organizations who have, uh, been regenerating their [00:16:40] ecology and their communities.

And then obviously the narrative of how, uh, that surf narrative of how we can come together and really change things. Um, [00:16:50] and so, uh, with the book, uh, sorry, was I addressing the question?

[00:16:55] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yeah, no, let's start with the book, because there's these three main parts to Surfing Saves, the book, [00:17:00] the film, and then the impact campaign.

[00:17:02] John Angiulo: Precisely. So let's start

[00:17:03] Evelyn O'Doherty: with the book.

[00:17:04] John Angiulo: Okay, yeah.

[00:17:05] Evelyn O'Doherty: Which, first of all, when is this book coming out?

[00:17:07] John Angiulo: This. So, um, you know, [00:17:10] August 27th.

[00:17:10] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yay. So next

[00:17:11] John Angiulo: week I'm doing an event. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really excited. So the book's really interesting. Um, it's going August 27th, I'm gonna do an event that's a book launch [00:17:20] film screening, uh, a release of what the impact's gonna be, the community fundraiser.

Very excited for that. Um, and this book, in many ways Yes. Is a download. So it's essentially the [00:17:30] culmination of my whole life.

[00:17:30] Evelyn O'Doherty: Mm. And

[00:17:31] John Angiulo: all of them. most key moments and lessons I've learned, failures and successes, a lot of failures, um, that in each of these ways, so what it, [00:17:40] in terms of it being a download, I began in December and I finished on July 31st, right?

So it was around, around nine months, start to finish, which is really kind of like, [00:17:50] I felt like a birth, you know, it was like, it felt like it was inside of me and it was time for it to come out. Books are like that in my mind. It's like being pregnant. You're like, all right, now I have to start birthing this thing.

Um, and so the [00:18:00] way that the book works, I kind of the first chapter, uh, it takes us through my personal experiences, um, that goes from my father teaching me to surf, [00:18:10] uh, my viewing, surfing as this incredible thing. Uh, like I basically, I basically learned how to surf when I was five and then got sent to elementary school.

And so you can never have [00:18:20] a more stark contrast of reality. You're like, okay, ultimate freedom and bliss. I believe I'm becoming a slave right now, right? They're like, they're like, only for like 40 years. They're like, what? I'm like 5. I don't, like how, [00:18:30] how much longer? That's forever. If you're 5, you're 5, 20, 40, that's forever.

So I was like, okay. And as I went deeper into it, I was like, okay, now this is correct. Like, [00:18:40] whatever's going on in this world is definitely off. And surfing, I couldn't put my exact fingers on when I was so young, obviously. But I was like, this is, In my mind, in my heart, objectively a better way. Like, people seem [00:18:50] like they're happier, they're living longer, they're doing, there's a light in their eye, they don't look like they're being systematically crushed on a daily basis.

So that was, that was my perspective. That's so

[00:18:58] Evelyn O'Doherty: gentle.

[00:18:59] John Angiulo: Me? [00:19:00] But, but I

[00:19:01] Evelyn O'Doherty: love that part where it talks about, like, you have this understanding as a young, young child about how unhappy most of the adults in your life are. [00:19:10] appear or are, right? And that you had experienced this freedom and joy and bliss out in the ocean and then were, you know, comparing that to the people who are your [00:19:20] elders and you said, no way, like not for me.

And that's, that's, yeah. Sort of the jumping off point, right, of John Angelo becoming [00:19:30] who he is today.

[00:19:31] John Angiulo: A hundred percent. Yeah. And it's also, it saved me, but it was definitely like that, it just taught me. Surfing really is, like, has become exactly what I [00:19:40] first thought. I was five, my dad took me surfing. I rode to shore, I mean, it's in the beginning of the book.

And it was just like, you know, my first conscious thoughts I remember having in my own head, where I could hear my own internal [00:19:50] voice, where I'm gonna surf for the rest of my life. And I've been at that kid with my five year old self was absolutely right. I love it more than ever. It was six inches today I went surfing in Palo Verde.

It was [00:20:00] beautiful. It was great. Yeah, so anyhow it takes us through me Seeing what surfing can do to us on a bigger scale things like a walk on water or surf therapy these things that they do To people [00:20:10] and then again it got me to the point of looking even deeper and really looking into surfing science and spirituality And that, right, that combination and [00:20:20] really going like, okay, if I really believe that everything is waves and surfing is this true metaphor, let me just research this and really see.

And the more I look, the more I was like, this seems like exactly

[00:20:28] Evelyn O'Doherty: right.

[00:20:29] John Angiulo: You know what I mean? [00:20:30] So, and then everything being solved in our world is with waves and waves equations. Every like in terms of like how AI and computers were to all these advanced things that people wonder, it's a, it's a wave equation they use to figure [00:20:40] these things out.

Uh, and so, you know, uh, God, the universe, everything kind of through this work, this Nikola Tesla model. that I found, that came into my, um, experience. [00:20:50] I was able to take what a surfer, this guy John Demartini, had written in his book, which kind of qualifies the first seven, and this guy, Matthias DeStefano, who's this amazing visionary [00:21:00] spiritualist.

And what that means is, there's this model that's in the book, and it goes zero to nine, and it breaks three things down. Physical, social, familial, uh, economical, [00:21:10] vocational, mental, spiritual. Knowledge and leadership, right? And so, uh, that's kind of also how the book is broken down, because it's been seen to be like a super [00:21:20] scalable way to view things.

This is very heavy headed for one, everyone, I'm sorry, but it's basically just, there's just The overview. It's just an overview, and there's basically nine kind of frequencies or wavelengths of our life [00:21:30] that we get to talk about and that we view that way. And so the book's broken down like that, um, zero being the first chapter that explains this and then one through nine being the rest.

[00:21:40] Um, yeah, it's really beautiful. So I get to, like, for instance, the first chapter is physical balance, the opposite of fight or flight. And I talk about the energy center, which is the root or [00:21:50] the Muldara, the endocrine gland, because we have seven main endocrine glands for each of those wave centers, which is what turns, uh, The wave into a biochemistry thing that secretes a hormone that makes you feel like either [00:22:00] an optimal human or not.

The sound wave, which is a solfeggio frequency, that is if you play it, it will help to heal. Mm-Hmm. That portion of your body and your energy. Mm-hmm. The light wave and [00:22:10] then the wave interpretation, which is my interpretation of what I'm saying means in terms of, say, physical, like for instance. Exactly.

You know, this is the primal wave of surviving or thriving in existence. The negative component of this [00:22:20] wave is comprised of fear, which causes a reaction of fire or flight. And I go into how you transmit that into a positive. And then, each chapter is my experiences in the world, and how surfing has saved me in that way.

[00:22:30] So, that's kind of a little, I guess, synopsis and breakdown into how the book works.

[00:22:34] Evelyn O'Doherty: I'm smiling because the way you just heard it, you're like, yep, and that's the book, right? And, and [00:22:40] truly, I mean, so for me, the book is pretty mind blowing, folks. Um, like just, if you open, if you open to page one, just make sure you're set up with a cocktail or, [00:22:50] you know, some time on your hands.

Cause you're going to move through it, right? And you're going to want to move through it. And what John does Uh, is a weaving of this science, [00:23:00] spirituality, what was the third S?

[00:23:02] John Angiulo: Surf. Surf. Yeah. Duh. Surfing,

[00:23:05] Evelyn O'Doherty: science, spirituality, and his own personal life narrative. [00:23:10] So, although, you know, parts of it sound, uh, complex, it's really not because it's woven into this story.

Right? And the story being [00:23:20] you. And the story being you that doesn't leave anything out. Like, you don't come out of that. Um, with a sense of like, I still don't know who that guy is, you [00:23:30] know, like you really, you put yourself out there, you talk about your struggles, your big challenges in life, you know, the successes, but you also talk so much about the [00:23:40] failures, which I really, I really love, right?

Because that's where. surfing picks you up again and takes you to another place and you're willing to step up and [00:23:50] learn something new and then you know

[00:23:51] John Angiulo: you can't get saved if nothing's wrong yeah well

[00:23:54] Evelyn O'Doherty: that's the beauty of the book it's like you know the way you just described it is like oh yeah you know so that's it's like all this stuff and but [00:24:00] it's like it's really uh um it's a tapestry you know and the way that you present it i feel the way that you prevent it makes it really accessible for [00:24:10] anybody right you could be a surfer but you could also just be a surfer an ocean lover, you know, who understands sort of the workings of the water or even just wishes you were out there [00:24:20] surfing on a wave, right?

Because it's all about that reading and all, and just thinking, opening your mind to this idea that there's more waves in the universe. [00:24:30] Then our physical eyes can see.

[00:24:33] John Angiulo: Absolutely. And yeah, I mean, I break it down like that because, uh, I guess it gives a structure that people can go through. But yeah, I mean, the, the story, especially [00:24:40] the book, right?

It's my life story. So, the idea is to, you know, definitely show as much of myself as I thought. Um, be as vulnerable as I could that made sense for the story that we're telling. [00:24:50] And it's hilarious. Is it funny?

[00:24:51] Evelyn O'Doherty: There are parts of it that are very, that, I mean, I'm not sure if you meant them to be funny, but like there are parts of it that are absolutely hilarious.

[00:24:58] John Angiulo: It makes sense. I mean, it's like, it's a multi [00:25:00] dimensional book. It's like literally as much of my personality as I can get in there to tell this narrative and yeah, and be vulnerable because, um, yeah, I, I had my daughter when I was 19 and I found out I was having her when I was [00:25:10] 18 and it was the books that I read that introduced me to everything that.

Is my foundation for life. I've never had, like, I've had amazing people in my life, but [00:25:20] I never had specific mentors. I'm hard to mentor. I don't like authority at all, but it's what's cool about books is they're dead and they don't tell you what to do. You get to choose, you know, and you, and when you find a book you like, you, [00:25:30] you, all you want is more.

Uh, and so they kind of saved my life. And I was like, and I always had a bit of a penchant for articulation. So I was like, okay, I'm supposed to be a writer. Cause it's like, save my life. I want to do that. [00:25:40] And so I've published four books before, but when I was writing this, I kind of knew that this was the one where I could put as much in as I could to Um, to affect other people in the community, whether older [00:25:50] or younger or the same age, definitely hopefully the younger people so they don't have to make the same mistakes, but anyone so that they could have, uh, a person that exists somewhere in space and time to relate to.

And [00:26:00] that, uh, could provide some insight into how they can get to a, uh, higher, more enjoyable point in their life after having gone through really difficult things. [00:26:10] Um, I'll say most of which were all my own fault, but

[00:26:15] Evelyn O'Doherty: But yeah.

[00:26:16] John Angiulo: But like what you said, what

[00:26:17] Evelyn O'Doherty: you said, of course, what you said at the beginning of [00:26:20] this, uh, podcast was that like everything that happened in your life brings you to surfing saves the book, the film, the impact [00:26:30] campaign, right?

And I, I really believe in that, right? Like all of our stepping stones, stumbling blocks, mishaps, fuck ups, whatever. Like, you know, if we [00:26:40] properly navigate them, right. And by properly, I mean, we just don't try and ignore them and, you know, be like a bull and just charge on. We try and learn from our mistakes.

Then [00:26:50] it's like the way opens up. And every time I've heard you talk about surfing saves, it's so clear to me. That [00:27:00] you're on, you're, you're on your way. Like, here it is, you know, and, uh, anyway, so super excited. So the book drops next Tuesday, August [00:27:10] 27th, um,

[00:27:11] John Angiulo: And that'll be available on Amazon. On

[00:27:13] Evelyn O'Doherty: Amazon, thank you.

And the goal is we want to sell a million copies.

[00:27:17] John Angiulo: Yeah, so the goal for this book is absolutely [00:27:20] to, I mean, in the next year, two years max, sell a million copies of this book. Um, because as we go on with this conversation, people understand the scope of how much I would like to help this world. [00:27:30] This is part of it, getting that message, these messages inside this book around as much as possible.

And then being able to expand from there, um, and then the film and the [00:27:40] impact campaign are part of that. So

[00:27:40] Evelyn O'Doherty: the book, the book starts, right, so we, we've talked about the book, um, this narrative of, of you and the surfing and science and spirituality. So then the [00:27:50] next sort of layer, I guess, is the film. And the film is also called Surfing Saves?

[00:27:55] John Angiulo: Yeah, everything is Surfing Saves. Everything right now is Surfing Saves, um, Um, [00:28:00] yeah, keep it simple. But, uh, but, uh, the, uh, yeah, so the film is an expansion of this concept. Um, because I know [00:28:10] that it goes so much further than beyond my own experience. I know that. And so, uh, when I have the vision for this project, it was as a whole, uh, book, film, impact [00:28:20] campaign in order to help create, um, in the end, a network of these regenerative surfer based properties and key biodiverse locations.

Um, and the film is one of the really great [00:28:30] mechanisms to allow that to happen. So the film, uh, will work in essentially three parts, which is, um, capturing some of the really most compelling stories of [00:28:40] Yeah, I think but, uh,

[00:28:43] Evelyn O'Doherty: but

[00:28:45] John Angiulo: just capturing the most compelling stories of, um, [00:28:50] people who have been saved by surfing.

There's a lot of volumes of the amazing things that happen, whether it's physical, you know, whether it's paralysis, depression, anxiety, [00:29:00] PTSD, um, special needs disorders. Uh, there's so many different amazing stories. So surfing saves people and then there's the secondary [00:29:10] portion which is really exciting, uh, which is the surf organizations, which are like surf organizations are essentially from what I can tell, leading the way in the world for [00:29:20] regenerating their ecology and their communities.

[00:29:21] Evelyn O'Doherty: And

[00:29:21] John Angiulo: in case people want to know, that's one of the greatest things at risk right now is our, uh, ecology and our cultural community, uh, being basically destroyed [00:29:30] by these, um, uh, by industrial and commercial interests. Right. Uh, so. The organizations around the world are going to get captured who are doing incredible work, like [00:29:40] people in Israel, Hagal Shalei, they're taking at risk youth, non denominational Jews, Christians, Muslims, surfing, five year mentorship and leadership education, programming through [00:29:50] surfing, saving tens of thousands of lives.

Uh, there is, uh, you know, Mozambique, which is, uh, an incredible biodiverse location. They have the Tofu tribe there as surfers, [00:30:00] and they would be incredible to activate because the deep sea mining there is about to get out of control unless you have a local population to protect it, it won't happen. Uh, all stuff all over the world, incredible people doing incredible [00:30:10] things, um, and they need awareness and they need funds.

And being that we are where we are, which is, um, Montauk, New York, at the end of the Hamptons, one of the, uh, most resourced, uh, Rich places [00:30:20] in the world. Um, this film is meant to be a mechanism for telling these stories and delivering funds to help these people. Yeah. Which is part of the [00:30:30] impact campaign.

Oh, I'm also the last part of the film. We'll talk, we'll, we'll be crafty. It's a docu narrative. So I do have a prevailing narrative that we can use our understanding of waves and frequency to do something special [00:30:40] and regenerate our world in these key locations.

[00:30:44] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yeah. Um, yeah. So it's in the book, and I'm sure it's in the [00:30:50] film.

So some of those specific surfing organizations, uh, that are helping others, saving lives, right, are like something like A Walk on Water, [00:31:00] which comes to Montauk every year. Tell us a little bit about what a wow does

[00:31:04] John Angiulo: a walk on water. Yes. So a walk on water and also surfers healing is another incredible organization that does this.[00:31:10]

Um, but essentially they take special needs, autistic down syndrome, kids, people, athletes, um, surfing as a [00:31:20] method of therapy. And the results are often kind of incredible, like extraordinary. Yeah. Like very emotional, overwhelming, but you have people Going from essentially being [00:31:30] completely non functional to Non communicative to you know speaking to enjoying to I mean going from having to be held In the water to [00:31:40] actually being able to be on their own boards and have some level of autonomy in their lives Really incredible and it's also amazing too because the correlation is across the board you focus on special needs people but [00:31:50] the same thing happens for I guess you call, you know, regular needs people but uh

[00:31:57] Evelyn O'Doherty: Does anybody have regular needs?

I'm not sure. [00:32:00] Yeah,

[00:32:00] John Angiulo: I need to, he can go to the bathroom every day. It's a regular need of mine. But, uh, water, but you, but you know what I mean? Uh, just for average humans. Uh, they, it's the same [00:32:10] thing, but just the degree is different. So you notice it more, right? Cause the gap's bigger if you have special needs.

But like, it's really, I feel really similar. How you deal with stress, anxiety, how you gain [00:32:20] confidence and the ability to have autonomy in life and sovereignty in society. Uh, surfing does a lot of that for us as just any normal, any average person, any, whatever type of person, uh, [00:32:30] you like to say. And then when you view special needs, it becomes super, super clear, right?

Because then it starts bridging this, what people consider to be an unbridgeable gap. And then it starts happening and you're like, holy [00:32:40] shit, this is magic. It's really happening. Yeah, you're like, this is, this is, like, what would happen to me? You know, I had a kid out with me. Yeah. And I totally, completely thought he couldn't speak.

I mean, he reacted to nothing I said in any [00:32:50] way. Like, you know, there was nothing I did that impacted him. I just picked him up. I'm autistic. Yeah. He deeply autistic, but when we got on, it says in the book, but when we got to shore after like a session and we drifted [00:33:00] down a bit and walking back, he's like, he's like, we're gonna surf again.

And he said, I was like, are you fucking kidding? You like talk? He's like, he didn't say anything to that. Like, he just kept like, we went surfing again, but like, he [00:33:10] said that and I was like, Whoa. And I told his mom and she's like, wow, he's only talked to like two people in his whole life. I was like, what? It was crazy.

Yeah, really crazy stuff. Just [00:33:20] really beautiful. Yeah, everyone. That's an amazing organization. And it's a testament to surfing, right? The power of surfing. Last night at Surf Lodges, this place here in [00:33:30] Montauk, they host this HaGal Shalee. So they are the Israeli group that is taking all these, um, At risk youth and basically trauma people from that area of [00:33:40] the world surfing and they're having incredible results, you know They started off with like 70 kids now.

They've got 10 camps all throughout the ocean I mean I'll go see it on Israel [00:33:50] helping people and they need to do more because the results are incredible and they have last night a Survivor of the Nova festival who they had taken in, you know fest is that bombing last year? I [00:34:00] started this whole thing in Gaza and I he was there and he spoke and he spoke about the trauma after that attack and how messed up he was them taking him [00:34:10] surfing and how it is now completely rejuvenated his life.

And now he's an instructor there. And it's just says he was very clear that it has saved his life and he would not have been able to keep living if he hadn't done that. There's no [00:34:20] stories like this happening just everywhere, everywhere, every day that people get to surf. Things are basically getting better.

[00:34:26] Evelyn O'Doherty: Well, and it's interesting, like it's that whole idea of where you [00:34:30] choose to put your perspective, right? If you start going down the road of looking at, you know, surf therapy organizations or whatever. It's like, it is endless and it is exciting and it is [00:34:40] limitless in the possibility. I just have to say this.

Um, so I've been to, uh, the AWOW here in Montauk several times and there [00:34:50] was, um, there was one year in particular that I remember where the surf was huge. It was like six foot, you know, maybe bigger on some of the sets. And you guys were [00:35:00] out there with these little Munchkin kids that some of them couldn't talk, couldn't function, couldn't do absolutely ripping, and like the entire beach just stood there in tears, right?

So it's not [00:35:10] just affecting, it is impacting certainly the children, but it's also impacting their caregivers, giving them something to hope for, giving them some lightness of [00:35:20] spirit, just, you know, like that, that, you know, It's like a struck bell.

[00:35:24] John Angiulo: They impact complete strangers. People who have no idea what's even going on really walk up and ask and they see what's happening and they just start [00:35:30] crying.

[00:35:30] Evelyn O'Doherty: And they cry.

[00:35:31] John Angiulo: I've had people who have nothing to do with it just start crying.

[00:35:34] Evelyn O'Doherty: Well that's what I, so it's that way of effect. Yeah, it's a frequency. It's a beautiful [00:35:40] frequency that one. And um, you know, so I've been affiliated with a group called the SUP Veterans. And what they do essentially is they take uh, retired military [00:35:50] members To Mexico, and they teach them how to surf, right?

Sub surf, specifically. Um, in Mexico, in order to help them, in order to help [00:36:00] our military members, uh, offset PSD from returning to civilian life, and give them back the camaraderie that they had when they were in service. Mm hmm. And, uh, [00:36:10] and I've, I've sat and I've watched that same connectivity, you know, between humans.

And then also a connection to the ocean, Mm hmm. which you can take home, right? You can take home and [00:36:20] practice and, and reenter the ocean and have that experience over and over and over again. Um, and the last thing I want to say, sorry, is as a woman, right, as a [00:36:30] woman, for me learning to surf, uh, I was in my like mid to mid thirties, mid to late thirties.

So all older in life, [00:36:40] um, learning how to surf was the most empowering thing that has ever, ever happened in my life. It changed. Every molecule of who I am. [00:36:50] Yeah, so I'm a believer, you know? Yeah, yeah,

[00:36:52] John Angiulo: I mean, it's just, it's, yeah. It's really exceptional, and I mean, there's, uh, just to be, like, fair, [00:37:00] uh, because of how society is, like, there is, there are negative aspects of surfing,

[00:37:05] Evelyn O'Doherty: like,

[00:37:06] John Angiulo: certain, like, you know, localism, anger, certain, these certain [00:37:10] mindsets.

[00:37:10] Evelyn O'Doherty: You want to see my foot right now? Yeah, there's negative aspects of surfing. Well, I actually,

[00:37:14] John Angiulo: I don't consider that like physical danger, which I addressed in the first chapter. I view it as part of it. Not as part of it. [00:37:20] Important and good.

[00:37:20] Evelyn O'Doherty: Um,

[00:37:21] John Angiulo: there's a reason. And for instance, there's also a reason I speak how I do.

Like euphemism does us no good in a time where things matter. Um, and they do, we do not have much time in order [00:37:30] to say, do the things that I'm proposing in this book. It's not like it's, it's not like it was 15, 20 years ago. The clock is now

[00:37:35] Evelyn O'Doherty: five years

[00:37:36] John Angiulo: ago. And by 2030 if we do not do things. [00:37:40] Uh, things will not be repairable in the same way and then we won't have the energetic burst that we have right now in order to get what we need done, right?

So viewing is [00:37:50] being able to, if you've never dealt with any actual real consequential danger in your life, you essentially become a coward. And that is something that the society [00:38:00] is, um, working so hard to perpetuate amongst us to have no certainty, certainly not in self and to have no strength in order to do anything about that self.

Uh, [00:38:10] because it makes you manipulatable, it makes you susceptible to fear, and then to all the things that they would do once you're in a state of fear. If you've, if your foot's been hurt, fantastic. If you've broken a leg, [00:38:20] great. If you've been in things that can kill you, perfect. Like, if you have not, then there's a reason for it, because they don't, people, you know, there's some, [00:38:30] society, you know, if you can't run with your feet buried, all these different things.

Right? They actually really matter. And not only that, they matter for your health, your well being, your ability to be [00:38:40] in nature, be around these things. And, like you said, it's empowering to know that you can go and be in nature where you're meant to be, have fun, enjoy it, challenge yourself, [00:38:50] and come back.

And you learn a lot from that, but, yes, I, I don't view physical danger, I view it as one of the most positive parts of surfing, is that I am in danger, and I've learned how to be [00:39:00] completely composed amongst it.

[00:39:01] Evelyn O'Doherty: That is the view, that

[00:39:02] John Angiulo: is what surfing through life is, is not to ever, it's not that these things are not happening, it's not that there's not crazy amount of things happening, [00:39:10] that does not matter.

Through that, we weave our line, we create the course, we surf that wave, and we make amazing things happen through that, and that is what it takes. That's what surfing in [00:39:20] existence is, and it's what we have got to do as a community of leaders if we want to be the people that we can be, and if we want to live in the world that we want to see.

[00:39:27] Evelyn O'Doherty: Mm hmm. [00:39:30] Um, so that, that brings us to the, like, your impact campaign, right, which is sort of the most important part of all of this conversation, right? So it's, [00:39:40] yes, we have a book. Yes, we have a film. And, but the idea is this creation of places on the planet, um, that are [00:39:50] cared for, uh, that are regenerative, agriculturally cared for by the individuals who live there.

And that's also really important, right? [00:40:00] Like the people, it's not some outside force coming in. It's the people who choose to live there are the ones. Uh, in charge and how, so [00:40:10] just give me a little bit about like, how does that growth happen? Where do we begin? How are you looking to find the funds to [00:40:20] move into different areas?

[00:40:22] John Angiulo: Yeah. Okay. So, um, what I call it is like a network of epicenters for vibration and regeneration. [00:40:30] And all this really means is having epicenters in key locations. where there's biodiversity, waves, surf community, and, uh, the community that wants to do it, [00:40:40] and a government that is not entirely opposed to it.

Right? Because, uh, because that makes it really difficult. Uh, and so there's Save the Waves Coalition and Surf [00:40:50] International, which is Conservation International's surf partner. Yeah. They're doing incredible work. I think surfing national said about 30 surf reserves, a lot of them in [00:41:00] the Indonesian region.

Uh, save the waves has done about like somewhere in the teens of all these ones over here. And so they've, um, Scott Atkinson, he's the head of surf [00:41:10] international. I actually knew, I read a tracks magazine article with him in February and I knew I was going to meet him and I met him like three weeks ago, uh, here and we have a long conversation.

Uh, it's [00:41:20] amazing. So in conservation, when you get surf communities involved is 10 X expedited, it happens 10 times faster and the efficacy is 10 X, uh, because of [00:41:30] the nature of how surfers are, because we do things that scare people and most people will think we'll kill them all the time. We're passionate, we're confident.

We have that self empowerment. We're a community of people who know each other. [00:41:40] So we move differently and we make things happen differently. And so he has the proof of that. And then they just had an article in Bloomberg, Uh, actually that came out from Surf International that, uh, really? [00:41:50] Yep. Just came out Bloomberg like a week ago.

Um, that, uh, surf ecosystems, uh, are estimated to sequester around 88 billion tons of carbon, [00:42:00] uh, presently right now in the world. Uh, so the protection of them is actually paramount to all the other metrics they have within their, um, conservation [00:42:10] agendas. Right? Yeah. So, uh, it's real, like there's so much with surfing and surfers.

and the proof is already there. Like I've, [00:42:20] that's, it's already there. So for me, uh, the impact campaign works like this and how do I plan to get the funds? I'm doing a fundraiser on Tuesday.

[00:42:28] Evelyn O'Doherty: Where is that?

[00:42:29] John Angiulo: It is a [00:42:30] private home in

[00:42:30] Evelyn O'Doherty: town, but it's here in Montauk. Yeah,

[00:42:32] John Angiulo: it's here in Montauk. I'm really fortunate.

I had like, you know, it's like literally like Surfer is allowing me to use a home. It's all [00:42:40] surfers,

[00:42:40] Evelyn O'Doherty: but there is a website where there will be further information Oh, yeah. Yeah, so

[00:42:45] John Angiulo: there's a there's a ton of stuff. So I mean my actual anticipation is to raise the funds [00:42:50] immediately That's why I talk that way.

But yes, so the what happened both to give some insight to the film, which is really cool So in the course of this what happened was the Robert [00:43:00] Redford foundation For their offended foundation for environmental impact films picked up surfing saves So all current contributions to Surfing Saves are viewed as a non profit, [00:43:10] 501c3, uh, which is wonderful for fundraising.

I also then got, uh, Two grants and some smaller investments in order to have, I began filming in March with my own money, but then I was able to do this. [00:43:20] That's how I was able to go to Mexico and bring my filmer and then to produce the content that we've done so far and finish the book and all of this.

So that's been great. And so in terms of that, [00:43:30] there is a, there is a website, there is reaching out to me. If, uh, then there is literally the surfing saves page on the A Redford Center website, which is a [00:43:40] really easy way for people to don donate. That's cool. If, if people are interested is, yeah, it's cool.

Now there is director, writer, producer, which I love. It's so awesome.

[00:43:46] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yeah.

[00:43:47] John Angiulo: Yeah. So that's been, that's great. So if people want to get [00:43:50] involved, please reach out. And there is a, a easy, easy mechanism for that. And it's a tax write off. Um, but yeah, so, um, but the goal then is to [00:44:00] travel, film in key locations around world deliver.

Um, funds at varying degrees to people who need it. And then also, you know, there's people buying properties and doing stuff all over and there's a [00:44:10] certain network. So for me, it's about having the mobility that I get to have for this project. The other people that are involved must have large organizations and bureaucracy.

So the idea is to be able to travel, find these things, uh, [00:44:20] and scout out really amazing locations for these, uh, these reserves. And then, you know, uh, there is a, there is a goal, a network of these certain places. And I do [00:44:30] believe that there is a certain way that we can. Uh, create just regenerative epicenters that do a couple of different things, but if we do it properly, they can help us regenerate, um, our ecology, our [00:44:40] communities, and also create a holistic economy that will, um, that would really, really help if people understand what's happening.

Like, for instance, like if everything's [00:44:50] surfing, which is how I view it, and you're really reading the ways of our world, which is what I talk about in the book, like seeing, understanding then we would understand. Right? Because it's like [00:45:00] number four in my mind is the heart, which is also finance this frequency of wealth and abundance and everything like that and your economy.

And if you can understand what's happening, right? [00:45:10] And look at this, there, the scenarios that are being presented by the so called leadership we have, which by the way, we have no leadership. In case anyone's wondering, which I do talk about in the book, but leadership [00:45:20] unifies universally. I will unify even beyond what people believe.

That's what a gray layer does. It takes people who would otherwise be divided and allows them to be unified. Right? Since all of our leaders are really divisive [00:45:30] and unify, almost no one, I view no one as real leadership on this plant that I've seen so far anyhow. But these people who are hijacking our lives, um, , , it's really what they've done.[00:45:40]

Uh, so like in order to get ahead of these problems and these systematic, um. the generations that we've had, [00:45:50] including our economy, having a network of places because of the regeneration of ecology means the regeneration of the things that provide for us, food and water. And these people forget that ecology is not some abstract [00:46:00] concept.

Every time you eat and every time you drink and every time you breathe air, that's ecology.

[00:46:05] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yep.

[00:46:06] John Angiulo: Every single time it comes from nowhere else. And if it comes from a lab, that's a bad idea. [00:46:10] Uh, I don't trust those guys. Anyhow, that being said, Um, yeah, so if we look at that and we, we really are serious about identifying and addressing problems and [00:46:20] creating solutions, a network of key places that we can stack solutions in line with our challenges with communities that go beyond socioeconomic, political, [00:46:30] religious, racial boundaries, like surfing often does for all of us.

Um, is paramount to how we evolve as a species, and [00:46:40] we are evolving as a species. And so we, and the next evolution of humanity is consciousness, which is wave and frequency based. And, [00:46:50] um, so if we wish to move forward and become conscious, more conscious, then I view this as one of the main ways, because if you want to.

Hold a frequency. You want spaces that hold [00:47:00] frequency. You want people that hold frequency and you want people who are coherent in similar areas to be able to build, maintain and emit that frequency. And so just like there's a post office or post and we're inside of a library right now for books [00:47:10] and for learning and there's a government building for people who wish to lie.

Then there or be or be lied to. Um, then there, there must be places built to be [00:47:20] able to do these things. Um, vibrational regeneration though, because if you. I mean, there's a person, uh, you know, there's a doctor in Canada, I forgot his name right now. [00:47:30] He can regrow your teeth, your adult teeth, by playing frequency.

Do you know that? You regrow parts of your bone. When

[00:47:35] Evelyn O'Doherty: I,

[00:47:35] John Angiulo: when I say that this, the more researchers, the, uh, ladies and gentlemen, this is [00:47:40] the absolute fact of reality, as far as I can tell. Every single thing happening is waves broken down by frequency, and when we learn to understand it, to read them, to ride them, to wield [00:47:50] them, We essentially can do anything we want.

Free energy, levitation, advanced craft, extension of lives, cause, [00:48:00] everything. By the way, we age because the telomeres, which are the things at the end of our DNA strands, they degrade and they fall apart. And that is done mostly through degradational frequencies, which is what our phones and all [00:48:10] this crap that we have around us does.

If you emit proper frequencies that regenerate that, you don't age the same way. Just in case anyone's wondering. But like, it rids everything. It [00:48:20] really is. So it's just like, that's why this has been so consuming for me because I believe that and feel deeply that if we just learn, if we allow surfing to save [00:48:30] us the way it can teach us what it is that is being given to teach, then we can become really something special and do something phenomenal.

which is [00:48:40] actually become conscious sovereign beings and communities and actually attempt to build and live in a world we'd like to be in as opposed to a pre subscribed one that was forced upon us that basically keeps us [00:48:50] in slavery with invisible chains. Uh, so. That's, uh, that's what I think.

[00:48:58] Evelyn O'Doherty: So, all right. So, [00:49:00] um, I know we got to wrap this up somewhere, but it's like, that's that's a pretty, that's no, I don't, it's no, we're not done. So the, um, [00:49:10] The regenerative locations, do you have any idea where they are?

[00:49:13] John Angiulo: Yeah, yeah, I mean You've spoken

[00:49:15] Evelyn O'Doherty: about Montauk, right? Like, start, like, begin where you're planted.

[00:49:19] John Angiulo: Well, I, [00:49:20] um, I, I wouldn't always say begin where you're planted. I happen to have been planted in this blessed place. Amazing. Okay, thank you. Yeah, right, right. So it's, uh, it's, if you're, if you're, [00:49:30] it's just like the waves. If everything sucks, go somewhere else. Uh, you know what I mean? Really, really. If the factors are completely stacked against you, get the fuck out and go find somewhere that's better.

Yeah, for sure. However, [00:49:40] things are It's not in our favor here, and bless that we are. There is a electromagnetic vortex grid on the planet. Right. Essentially [00:49:50] like different higher frequency wave energy areas. They often have biodiversity, uh, mineral resources, um, less, you know, Natural [00:50:00] disaster and less human made disaster, depending upon what the humans have been doing.

Um, and many of them are corrupted, and you know, meaning like the energy has been, is not as [00:50:10] pure or as what it was, but that can be remedied through places like this. To answer your question, I'm aware of some, there are so many I'm not aware of, and uh, [00:50:20] a great, beautiful part of, you know, these ongoing journeys and this project like this is that you get brought to them.

I became, you know, I built a van and began traveling in 2021 [00:50:30] and I got brought to these different places. And it was once I began to understand this concept that I realized why there were so many of us like hearted and minded people in these places, [00:50:40] much without, with no coordination amongst any of us.

And we'd never known each other before. Um, and so yeah, there is this amazing magnetism for, um, [00:50:50] The whoever's of that frequency to go to these places, but that being said that like I said, there's the there's people I want to see there's the organizations there is the electromagnetic grid of Earth [00:51:00] And then there is the guidance of the vision of the grace of, you know, God, which is in case people ask when I use the word God, I just mean it as one [00:51:10] true loving creator that balances all and allows for you to even say God doesn't exist, but holds your tongue in place so it can say it.

and loves you so much, right? Is [00:51:20] non religious in relation to like, say Christianity or anything like that is just, I'm an English white person and God is the easiest word for me to create as a centralized loving figure of [00:51:30] all creation. Um, just to give you some clarity around that for people. Cause I'm sure they'll say, which God does he mean?

It's like, I mean the one God. And then there's also a deity, which is like the trillions of other different types of divine beings that [00:51:40] there might be. And I'm not going to go into that myriad of crazy things. Anyhow. But yeah, so. That's like I kind of the idea is to, uh, is to have this book so I can [00:51:50] easily give this to

[00:51:51] Evelyn O'Doherty: people and

[00:51:52] John Angiulo: give this inspiration to people as I go.

Um, then there's the film to tell these really amazing stories to help, uh, for me to be able to see and weave together [00:52:00] this network, help people along the way. Um, and then with the film, the book and that come back, um, build even more to go around and to go to [00:52:10] these key locations that are being built by Save the Waves, Surfing National Worship Reserves.

And really talk about the concept of how to regeneratively to [00:52:20] build and develop these things that vibrate at a frequency and also to create the spaces for a community of higher learning and creativity outside the [00:52:30] context of what people, um, you know, like education systems in schools. Right, all the current systems.

Yeah, outside the concept of that, like really like, you know, I break everything down by these [00:52:40] nine things, but imagine you had a place where there was like the most incredible physical. builders and athletes and then there's the most incredible experience throwers of all time people through the most of it and then the [00:52:50] Best community builders and homemakers and everything and then the the most brilliant financiers and economic people who can build real economies that benefit the people and then the most incredible artists and creative [00:53:00] expressions and the most brilliant intelligent mental people who can have foresight and understand mathematics and physics physics and the most spiritualized people who have deep connection with [00:53:10] God and create, have wisdom through chaos.

No matter what your mind says, that's the, that's the grace of spirituality over the mind is that it can be dualized and then there's the chaos, but the spirit is [00:53:20] what goes in between and sanitize it and creates that coherence. And so when you have those spiritual people there, it's amazing. Then what if you have all the data information that you have, which is the eighth level, you're a Torrid field, all the information [00:53:30] knowledge, what if you have all that there Available to the people so they can learn as opposed to us being manipulated, manipulated by what if you had the ninth dimension where you had the best leaders from all of these different areas [00:53:40] there together, who are experts in fields that actually matter there to be able to help make decisions.

What if you had that as opposed to. this which is [00:53:50] What if you did you know and I mean like I I just listed nine things There's places all over the world you build certain places you put them in there They vibrate at a frequency these people start doing crazy shit [00:54:00] And then the world's a whole different place the level of innovation by getting amazing people together.

I I have a wonderful imagination I can't even imagine the cool shit that all the people together can make and that's what the [00:54:10] reason for division and so if we're gonna be real surfers when you come together as a community and Not let society impacted so much, create coherence, use waves and coherence is the [00:54:20] main thing of waves.

Like if we, if we cohere ourselves in the same frequency, we move faster than the speed of light. We can communicate faster than speed of light. We can manifest faster, faster than the speed of light. So [00:54:30] when I say surfing saves, I mean, surfing saves us at this baseline level from our world that we get inspired to save places.

And if we learn how to utilize what surfing is teaching us, we can actually do something like [00:54:40] literally outside the scope of what most people consider possible. But it's absolutely true,

[00:54:44] Evelyn O'Doherty: right?

[00:54:44] John Angiulo: Because I, there's a guy in Canada who can regrow your teeth with frequency, right? They told you you can never regrow teeth.

You know, [00:54:50] you're supposed to have this and you'll die that quick. Well, if you play this frequency, your body will heal from cancer in 12 hours. How about that? You know that?

[00:54:55] Evelyn O'Doherty: Yeah, well,

[00:54:56] John Angiulo: it's the energy enhancement system. It's this incredible technology being [00:55:00] perpetuated around the world. But I mean people have, you know, terminal illnesses, spend 24 hours in literally just these screens emitting sound, light, and fourth dimensional wave therapy and [00:55:10] everything's gone.

They're fine. So, so it's like when I have this level of ratify research is constantly coming across, right? And these things are [00:55:20] happening. You know what I mean? What am I supposed to say? Like, that's why we say everything is waves and surfing saves. I need you to get on board, drop in and enjoy the ride.

That's the whole [00:55:30] thing right there.

[00:55:32] Evelyn O'Doherty: That is, that is the whole thing. John and Julo, I can't thank you enough for coming into the studio and sharing. I mean, I know [00:55:40] that's just a snippet. Like, you have the ability to really, like, you need a stage to bring people to. Or something, or a podcast of your own to, uh, to [00:55:50] continue talking about this stuff.

Because every time I've gotten together with you, it's been at least an hour once we get going on it. And it's, and there's always, I always leave feeling like. But wait, [00:56:00] there's more, but that's great, because I want to come back and revisit it after I've had time to digest, uh, what you've given us here. So I just want to just point out the couple of basic things, [00:56:10] right?

So surfing saves the book by John Angelo, a N G I U L O. You can look for that on Amazon. [00:56:20] Yep. Uh, and then we're going to have the film launch, which launches on Tuesday. Where can people,

[00:56:25] John Angiulo: so what the film is, so the film I'm going to ask, so the film I'm showing is a [00:56:30] short for the screening to base. So if you are, so if you want to follow along, um, Follow surfing saves on Instagram just underscore surfing saves underscore [00:56:40] That's that's a great way to just follow along and see and then the connection the website and updates on what we'll be doing you there And the content that some of the smaller content we're producing telling [00:56:50] stories as we tell as we save stuff for the bigger story The short that I'm showing I haven't released anywhere because I use it for private screenings to bring in [00:57:00] additional funds.

Um, and so, but eventually that will be released, but I'll make announcements. The best thing to do is to definitely follow on Instagram. Um, there, uh, and then, yeah, [00:57:10] um,

[00:57:10] Evelyn O'Doherty: and session magazine. Cause we are sharing.

[00:57:12] John Angiulo: Oh yeah. And I got to say,

[00:57:13] Evelyn O'Doherty: no,

[00:57:14] John Angiulo: you guys are sharing all of that. I have to think, uh, especially such a magazine.

They're the media partner for this [00:57:20] and they've been reposting everything. And, uh, Just been amazing and really, really supportive. So thank you guys for that.

[00:57:26] Evelyn O'Doherty: We are so into it. Yeah,

[00:57:28] John Angiulo: I'm stoked. Yeah, really, really [00:57:30] But yeah, just everything is serving safe serving saves. com Surfing

[00:57:33] Evelyn O'Doherty: saves,

[00:57:35] John Angiulo: uh, definitely the instagram the books are going to be the books available on [00:57:40] amazon and then be on the lookout Uh for where we'll be traveling to film and if anyone has any really amazing stories That they would like to share whether it's [00:57:50] themselves personally organizations They think I should be in touch with or really anything that has to do with this concept uh, then Please feel free to reach out through the instagram

[00:57:59] Evelyn O'Doherty: And if you [00:58:00] happen to be on the beach at Ditch Plain in Montauk and it's a great day with some, you know, firing lefts and you see this guy out there on a longboard who looks, [00:58:10] literally looks like it's more of a dance than it is somebody who's, you know, quote unquote ripping.

I mean, you are, you are definitely ripping, but it's, it's so, it's so [00:58:20] on a different level.

[00:58:21] John Angiulo: I much prefer dancing to the idea of ripping.

[00:58:23] Evelyn O'Doherty: It's definitely what's happening. is John Angelo on the waves. So, um, that's how you can spot him, [00:58:30] uh, if he's not wearing his hat that he's got on here in the studio. And, uh, and if you get a chance to speak to him on land, I highly suggest you pause, [00:58:40] ask a couple of questions and get, um, get your information, you know, uh, but going to the website, going to surfing saves underscore on [00:58:50] Instagram and just Stay in, stay in tune, right?

Stay in tune with, um, the message as it comes out. Cause I have a feeling that as it unfolds, [00:59:00] it's going to continue to progress and evolve and, and become something even greater, right? Then we can imagine.

[00:59:07] John Angiulo: That is my hope. And if you're listening to this, then this includes [00:59:10] you and I would love for you to be a part of it in any way that you can.

If you know me, come say what up, talk about this. If you don't come say what up to me and talk about this and then you will know me. Uh, get the book, [00:59:20] follow along for the film, when the film comes out, go and see it. And, um, while we're here on Earth together, make sure that, uh, you have fun, like I said, enjoy the ride, and help [00:59:30] each other.

Let's help each other out, because we're here together for that reason, and when we're all doing good, we all get to do better. You know, the better we all do, so, yeah, definitely. Let's use surfing as [00:59:40] a way to help ourselves, our communities, this world. And have a lot of fun getting it done.

[00:59:45] Evelyn O'Doherty: Let's do it.

[00:59:45] John Angiulo: Yeah.

[00:59:46] Evelyn O'Doherty: Thanks Joe.[00:59:50]

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